Can a Big Girl Get Some Love?
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“No one wants a bone but a dog” is an old saying in the black community that affirms the traditional approval of plus size women by black men. But these attitudes may be changing because today male body-type preferences are no longer easily defined. Young African American men, products of the middle class, are inclined to adopt more mainstream American values, including a preference for a thinner woman. A January 2004 study published in the Journal of Black Studies reported that African American men between the ages of eighteen and thirty-five found smaller women more attractive than women with larger body types in the majority of the cases.
Couple upward mobility with the Eurocentic standard of beauty—the tall, thin, long haired, light skinned, bootie bouncing vixen—screaming from MTV, BET, and other popular culture sources, and it’s no wonder what is considered sexy and attractive is changing among young African American men and women alike.
Does Size Really Matter?
According to the Centers for Disease Control, seven out of every ten black women are considered overweight or obese as defined by the current “body mass index” (BMI) standards. Bigger body types, a diet heavy in fat, salt, and sugar—so called “soul food”—the reliance on cheap and convenient “Mickey D’s” and other fast food, and lack of regular exercise mean millions of black women are fat.
Despite these dismal stats, nearly one-third of adult African American women are married, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, and countless others live within committed relationships. Some women are overweight when they marry; others become “fat and happy” in the years after “jumping the broom.” Then there’s the weight gain that comes with childbearing and from aging. The lifestyle choices of married African Americans are also a factor in the high rates of obesity and overweight. A 2004 Centers for Disease Control study found that black married couples are less physically active than single, divorced, and widowed people; and, not surprisingly, more black husbands and wives are fat compared to African Americans who have never married, or are widowed or living with a partner.
Sometimes there’s camaraderie in pigging out. “My husband is my ‘snacking buddy,’ and he always sabotages me whenever I try to diet,” one stay-at-home mom reveals. Vanessa, a U.S. postal worker, watched her boyfriend grow so threatened by the idea that she was about to become a slimmer mate, he cursed her mere hours before she was scheduled to have a gastric bypass. “He told me, ‘I hope you die on the operating table,’” Vanessa recalls. She came through the surgery fine, dropped the excess weight, and lost the boyfriend too.
Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones
Negative stereotypes about the sexual desirability of large black women abound. I will never forget the time I was giving a lecture, entitled “From Auction Block to Idiot Box,” on the image of African Americans in popular culture. I began by asking the audience at California State University, Fullerton, to tell me the first thing that comes to mind when they think of the black woman.
Overwhelmingly, the response was “someone who is strong.” When I asked them to come up with another adjective, most in the room exchanged puzzled looks, but one young man in the back had his answer ready.
“Black women are fat and angry,” he hollered. The room was stunned. “They’re mad because black men are dating white women,” he continued. “African American women are so fat, no one wants to date them.”
Some outraged young women in the audience joined me in asking the man what survey he had done to determine such nonsense. “I heard it on Tom Leykis,” the young man said proudly, referring to the radio shock-jock who broadcasts his sexist rants to multitudes of impressionable young men on a daily basis. I responded that the tendency to paint countless black women with one broad brush is an example of the destructive “idiot box” mentality.
Truth be told, the young man was simply repeating common misconceptions about the lovability of big black women, especially among those whose only knowledge of African Americans is gleaned from the evening news, movies, or TV. Demeaning attitudes are realities plus-size black women face every day. Folks assume because a woman is overweight, she is also lazy, bossy, lacking in personal hygiene and ambition, oversexed or asexual, and unmoved by ugly stereotyping.
Most of the young women I interviewed for Hungry for More professed pride in their lives and their appearance despite the gawking, the insults, and the constant fat prejudice. In many cases this self-assured attitude proved attractive to men, the women reported. In addition, a self-affirming exterior serves as a psychic armor in a fat-phobic world. Other women use an outwardly confident demeanor to mask the shame and helplessness they feel because of their weight. Valinda, a three hundred pound philosophy student, says she hangs on to her “extra padding” as a way to avoid sex. “Not intentionally, of course,” she admits. “It’s just when you have the man or different men coming on to you a lot, a way of discouraging so much sexual attention is to put on weight. Other than that, food is damn good,” Valinda laughs.
Men in Search of Queen Size Love
It’s true that some men prefer big women and choose them in the same way others favor blonds. Anecdotally speaking, a voluptuous woman could represent the ideal mother/lover image for some men. Ron, a fifty-three-year-old special education teacher, told me he never dates a woman “under a size 12” who has “food issues” and “does not like to eat.”
Many men associate a woman who has a passion for food with someone who is highly sexual and likes to cook. Other guys admit to being attracted to the body type they are most familiar with from their family of sisters and a mother who are big boned and fleshy. This can explain why some African American women are miffed when they see their favorite black movie star or NBA idol photographed with a white woman who has a “flat chest and no ass.”
Jerome, a middle-aged African American grocery clerk who has dated large women his entire life, buys into the notion that “big women are easier. They don’t expect much and if they reject a brother, he does not feel as bad as if a skinny woman disses him.” Besides, Jerome says that in his experience “little women are evil.”
Stephanie, a single mom who underwent a gastric bypass operation three years ago and lost one hundred and fifty pounds, remembers that even as a fat girl, she enjoyed positive dating relationships, including one with a well-to-do African American real estate entrepreneur. “I have known Michael for years and he treats me like a queen,” Stephanie says. “He tells me all the time he liked my body better when I weighed one hundred and fifty pounds more. He thinks I am too small now.”
“The men I meet adore me, my body,” says Elizabeth, a plus-size graphic artist. “They’ll say things like, ‘I like being with you because there is more to hold on to,’ and ‘You’re soft and cushy.’ I think some men see a woman with big breasts and imagine a cushion, a place they can bury their face and feel safe.”
An executive booking manager for a Los Angeles-area speakers’ bureau, Juanita describes herself as large and lovely and “a player in the dating scene.” She does not see herself as anyone’s wife—ever. “There are lots of men who like me because I am a big woman,” Juanita says. “I have never had a problem with men not liking me because of my weight; my personality shines. And men always comment on my pretty eyes. Obviously they admire the essence of me. They also like my other body parts too.”
Tina, a diminutive, thirty-eight-year-old African American woman who has dated both men and women for the past twelve years, says that guys are usually “looking for a woman who is smaller in size than they are, and women typically look for taller men. With lesbians, though, a woman’s shape and height are usually not that important.” Tina does believe that even within the gay community large women are often misjudged. “When I see a big woman at the clubs, I assume she is a ‘stud’—more stereotypically masculine than feminine—but that is not always true.”
Chubby Chasers
According to Stephanie, however there is a world of difference between a man who loves and appreciates big women and so-called “chubby chasers.”
The latter are men with a fetish, obsessed with fatty flesh. Elizabeth, the graphic designer, calls such men “vultures who find and exploit [a woman] they think may have low self-esteem because of her size. Chubby chasers really don’t like themselves and come to us figuring we must also feel bad about ourselves too. They think we’ll be a perfect match.”
Stephanie agrees. “Chasers are losers, weirdoes, outcasts, secretly gay or bisexual, too short, or otherwise physically unattractive. “Especially the guys who troll the Internet chat rooms and place personal ads,” says Stephanie. “Those are the kinds of guys who are really looking for vulnerable women to play ‘mama’ to them.”
Chubby chasers may be desperately seeking women to support them and forgive them for their infidelities and other faults in the same way that they might seek approval from an understanding parent. Chubby chasers are often in search of a woman with a big body and a big heart to match. Stephanie remembers encountering lots of men during her super-sized days who were “closet chubby chasers”—guys who wanted to be seen in public with a slender girl, but, when they got home, they wanted to “do it” with an obese or overweight woman.
With regards to Internet surfing, there are numerous porno sites designed to titillate chubby chasers into whipping out the plastic and purchasing copies of their favorite plus-sized, videotaped, and streamed fantasies. These videos feature images of dark hued, pouty models, spread eagled in close-ups and are similar in style and mood to the photos of their slimmer counterparts. The triple XL size black women are served up in typical X-rated style just like the thin ones are, splayed out for male gawking and self-pleasuring. In fact, the only difference between these streaming videos and digital pinups are thicker belly rolls, heavier, flabbier thighs, and humongous breasts. Such images prove irresistible to men all over the world, insists Lee Mack owner of a porno website featuring fat women. According to Mack, “my website has been so lucrative, I am planning to take my full-figured models on the road, on a so-called ‘Big Girls Gone Wild’ tour.”
Some people may view this kind of pornography as “fat equality” but it is really just a different shape of female exploitation.
Does Being Fat Affect Your Sex Life?
A controversial study called “Obesity and Sexual Quality of Life,” published by researchers at Duke University in 2004, report surprising data of the surveyed participants at the Duke Diet and Fitness Center. The report included 507 obese people who were seeking treatment, and 422 obese and 282 normal weight participants who were not seeking treatment. The survey concluded that obesity impairs sexual activity. “For blacks, the news could be of particular concern because of their rate of obesity,” said Dr. Martin Binks, co-author of the Duke study and director of behavioral health at the Duke Diet and Fitness Center. “Analyzing sexual activity or a lack thereof in any group can be a difficult task,” Binks said. “What we hear from our patients is that they experience difficulty and sometimes have a lack of sexual desire. This is a serious issue for quality of life.”
And forget about trying to maneuver into creative lovemaking positions, confessed one middle-aged African American wife who struggles with her weight and suffers from high blood pressure but who was not apart of the Duke study. “These days, I get tired and out of breath when I’m in bed with my husband. The missionary position is all we do.”
The Duke study also revealed that obese people have significantly more impairments in sexual activity than people who stayed within healthy ranges of weight, and that obese people who seek weight loss treatment report significantly lower sexual quality of life than obese people who do not seek treatment.
Seen and Unseen
Stephanie used to describe herself as “super-sized” when she weighed over three hundred pounds before weight loss surgery. She remembers feeling both “conspicuous and invisible” when it came to the opposite sex.
Etched in Stephanie’s mind is an incident in an L.A highrise. A professionally dressed black man got on the elevator with Stephanie and never made eye contact. Instead, remembers Stephanie, the atmosphere was tense, and the guy kept his gaze glued to the floor until the doors opened and he bolted out.
“I could write a book all about how black men treat fat women,” Stephanie proclaims. “I will never forget that time in the elevator. I wanted to shout at him ‘speak to a sista, will you? I am still your sister whether or not I am fat.’” After weight loss surgery, Stephanie lost one hundred and fifty pounds in just over two years. She did it because, even though she enjoyed healthy relationships with many men, some men reacted to her in a negative way. “[Before I lost the weight] they started treating me like ‘the fat girl’—a person who did not matter, who needn’t be acknowledged or spoken to, someone who was less than a human being.”
Typically upbeat and cheerful, Stephanie’s voice lowers with hurt and rage when she recalls the black men who ignored her and treated her like she was “nothing” when she was fat. “Black men would not even extend to me common courtesies, like holding the door open.” Stephanie insists that white and Hispanic men were more likely to look her in the eye and acknowledge her than were black men. “If you are physically unappealing to a black man in any way,” Stephanie believes, “some act like you don’t even exist.”
Crystal Crawford, the director of Public Policy for the California Black Women’s Health Project, which studied African American women’s health concerns, sees the increasing popularity of liposuction and weight loss surgeries with urban and suburban black women as a sign that African Americans are rejecting the “big mama” characterization—the sexless mistress of the kitchen that has been around since the days of slavery. “Today, women are willing to go to extremes to find a quick fix as a way of getting that male attention,” Crawford says. “Black women want to be perceived as so-called ‘cute and small.’ Society says that ‘petite’ is what is beautiful. We as black people have always embraced fuller figures. But nowadays, the media images are working on us in the sense that more and more black women desire to be thin.”
Robyn McGee is the author of Hungry for More: A Keeping-it-Real Guide for Black Women on Weight and Body Image Seal Press 2005. It is available at Amazon and bookstores everywhere.









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I Agree!
With all the current glossy mags clearly giving the impression that slimmer is better this article helps to negate this stigma. I for one find thin and sick looking women somewhat of a turnoff and the steady rise of the larger sized lady is refreshing and as far as I am concerned much heathier all round!
There is someone made for you
I am from India and there is a saying here that There is someone who is made for everyone, bog or small does not matter. I think so that is correct. So weight or height or looks matter to a certain extent but then they become immaterial.
Fantastic Article
This is a fantastic article on the ever-changing subject of perceived beauty. What I find most disturbing is the fact that the article cites that 7 of 10 or 70% of African American women are overweight or obese. It would be interesting to know what the major factors of this are. The article states that these women tend to be less active and eat more fatty / salty foods, but there must be other reasons involved. Could it be that the stereotype that African American males prefer bigger women may have changed for the men, but that the women, who have grown up hearing this all their life, have not changed?
Interesting, thanks for this great article, Robyn.
I recently went through
I recently went through chemotherapy and major surgery, and gained weight on the drugs--from my usual 160 to about 185. I felt insecure about my body for the first time in my life. But decided not to obsess on it because I was healing so well and quickly (another reason to have body fat). Also I could still wear all my old clothes, and could work and play just as hard as ever. But according to all the on-line tests, and even my own HMO, I became "obese." Yet I'd challenge any of those properly skinny judges to work side by side with me and not fall down after two hours...and me not even break a sweat.
I don't think that weight
I don't think that weight matters to anyone. I'm about 160lbs at just 5'4" and my husband loves me more than any man could love a woman. He is no ordinary Joe as he was a heartthrob in our college years. I think it has more to do with how you carry yourself than letting others opinions affect your outlook. As the saying goes - beauty is only skin deep.
I've never understood men who
I've never understood men who like boney women - I like big women, as long as they are intelligent too. It's best to stay healthy though, heart attacks are not recommended so if weight is a problem then lose a bit but most women prefer larger women.
Everybody has different views
Everybody has different views on what they consider beautiful. Personally I like thin or athletic myself. Unfortunately I have found that many people who don't care to have a healthy looking appearance can also be emotionally unstable as well. I am sure self confidence plays a role in that.
Thanks for this article..
Thanks for this article..
Actually my 2nd girlfriend
Actually my 2nd girlfriend she was very sexy and have large ass which I enjoyed kissing liking and other stuff as well, she was the best ever seen, cute hips sexy whole and fluffy ass,,,,, I loved holding that fat in my hands, every time I come from work she is wearing short dress and doing some cooking and I just can wait to go on my nose and stick it up her lovely fluffy ass. So please stay the way you are, I am sure someone will appreciated what you have.
Regards,
to u & ur big ass
OMG!
You have specifications for height, weight, hair color, age, measurements, ect...I don't think ur ever going to find ur BARBIE doll with a list that specific. Lol.
Granted its always good to know what you want and go for it, but what happened to looking for a woman with intelligence, self confidence, or anything internal? When did we as a society become so narcissitic and obsessed with the way other people look? That is soo sad.
Handsome black lads are FINALLY dithing fat black ladies!!!!
We handsome black lads are FINALLY waking up and realizing that the propoganda about our having to affirm fat black broads is being fed us by other blobbos amongst the 'black press" and veteran mountebanks Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton,etc.As a 5'9'',218 lb.,life-size Brad doll-from 1970-'72,Brad was Barbie's boyfriend Ken's handsome black buddy-I'm ALWAYS after a buxom blonde between 25 and 39,her bra,36D-42D,5'4'',115 lb.-5'8'',145 lb.
Muah"ejisop ugu vuranuw agavu odac"?
Well im almost 14 but im not fat i have a medium sized waist long hair lightskined light brown eyes nice legs and a little booty l0l but sumtimes i wish i was a litttle tinier
me i love big woman
do u know what is wrong, is that we want to be seened, guys want to be seen with skinny beutiful girls, its not about love in these days its about who has the hottest girl so its all about showing off,
me i am dating a plus size girl and i love her with my whole heart she is every thing i ever wanted in a woman. i think she is the 1 for me
OMG!
The thing you said about being the "fat" girl only wanted by older men... wow i though that was only me! i'm just sligtly overweight but all the creepy old werid men want me... while guys my age cruise by.. WTF!! i got like 50 yearolds talking to me...i'm on 17!!
Im in the same situation as you !!
Hun were in the same boat. But im bi so guys are always doing the ill get with you if i can watch you with another girl this is very wrong. I just want someone to love me for me and not have to worry he's just doing it to see me with a girl you know. So goodluck to both of us one day someone will love us for real and if not hunny its there lose. Thanks
I think there's someone out
I think there's someone out there for everyone, so big girls should be able to "get some love". The looks preferences is very subjective... I myself try not to give it weight at all. Jeff
You are mistaken to claim
You are mistaken to claim that all European standards of beauty demand thinness, implying that thinness is only a European standard of beauty.
My view is that thinness has nothing to do with nationality, it has to do with sexism.
I am of Scandinavian extraction and culture, and the women in my family are all fairly short, and packed in the back with a rack on the stack. We also own our own chainsaws, instinctively know how to hunt and fish, and have no trouble outworking men and boys 40 years our junior. We are fabulous lovers our entire lives. And we look like NOTHING you see in the media.
The tall/skinny/blonde ideal is HOLLYWOOD, not nationality. The constructed view of that ideal as Scandinavian is pitifully WRONG. Look at Greta Garbo, who like many Scandinavians started out blonde, her hair darkening as she aged, but Hollywood polished and buffed her up in a ridiculous ideal of blondeness that has nothing to do with the real thing.
Educate yourself, instead of passing along this racism. Many Scandinavian women are stocky, sturdy, more peasant-worker looking than the willowy ideal of Hollywood/the media. Also, many Scandinavian women have pale skin (if you don't, you die in a climate that has little sun), but BROWN or even BLACK hair. Finnish women are frequently dark haired and eyed, with very pale skin. The same with northern Celts. In my family we start off towheaded as infants, and our hair darkens our entire lives, turning brown to black by age 50.
Please stop racializing and nationalizing differences that come out of mass media/advertising. I am so sick of being called racist when I and my body type and features have been despised just as those of stocky dark-skinned women! Yet I was one of those "blondes" that everybody hated when I was in my teens and twenties.
As for fat, hatred of women and our curves is often prominent in eras of wealth and abundance, which are often driven by testosterone-charged economic and social regimes. In lean times, womanly bounty tends to be more welcome and appreciated.
As for being big and getting love, I chose a big partner. Not out of some visual preference. He was just the person I resonated with, and with HIS Germanic genes, HE was considered too big, too fat, etc. He is so healthy, so sexy, so strong and competent...and he hugs like magic. Yet people looked past him for his body type! Put him down, rejected him. So men get this too.
I recently went through chemotherapy and major surgery, and gained weight on the drugs--from my usual 160 to about 185. I felt insecure about my body for the first time in my life. But decided not to obsess on it because I was healing so well and quickly (another reason to have body fat). Also I could still wear all my old clothes, and could work and play just as hard as ever. But according to all the on-line tests, and even my own HMO, I became "obese." Yet I'd challenge any of those properly skinny judges to work side by side with me and not fall down after two hours...and me not even break a sweat.
I was out at a lumber yard one day, talking to one of the young fellows there about a lumber shipment, and we got talking about some major projects we both were working on in our respective lives. At some point he observed--without a come-on or any intent other than admiration--that I was "ripped." I was feeling a bit squishy, so this made me laugh, which made him blush and apologize. I told him his regard was great, but even more was his courage in expressing it.
I carry myself with confidence out of my deep respect and love for my embodiment. I don't particularly care what others think at this point in my life, but when I was younger, comments could sting for a long time. Like the dates who kept saying "If you only lost 10 pounds...." Which of course was the last date. But that stuff stings, even though I had the self regard and intelligence to know that what they were really saying was, "I'm afraid of you, and I feel that if I could whittle you down physically, I would be more secure."
Fortunately I was raised by and around people who affirmed my scope and scale--both of Scandinavian AND African/Caribbean/Latino/Xicano ancestry. I have NEVER dieted. I trust my body to know what weight it should be, I eat a healthful diet, and I try to work off my anxieties with exercise or walking. I notice where I live that big, strong, ample, abundant women are RESPECTED. It is an area with a far more working class and rural culture than the big cities have. Women here are considered sorta goddesses, but not in a fluffy new age way. Forces of nature.
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I think "big girls" will
I think "big girls" will always have somebody out there that will find them attractive because of the fact thats everyones opinion on who or what is "attractive" is so varied and subjective.
I agree with most of what was said.
I am 5"11' and beautiful. I was always a big structured girl. My father is 6"5' and my mother is 5"9' and the tiniest waist and the biggest hips and but..extremely beautiful and sexy. My first boyfriend the one I gave my virginity to,was with me from the age of 12 until I was 16. He broke up with me cause in my teenage years I was a size 14,not overweight but thick. This damaged my self esteem for a while and ever since that I have issues in relationships and haven't had one in a while. I look at myself and loathe what I see from the neck down. I thought about surgery but can't afford it. Someone will come arouund one day and love me for me...but until then I will be that fat girl who is wanted by only older men who want to feel youg. I am 25 yrs old. Thanks for listening.
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